If we look at the 1851 Census we find them living at Bermondsey, Southwark. Thomas is 67 years old, Alice is 50 and there children Thomas 21,
William 9 and Hannah 6 years old. But three daughters are not listed. According to the Baptism certificate we find Alice Baptised 28 June 1837,
She would have been around 19 years old, Also Sarah Ann Baptised 12 Oct 1834 and she would have been around 17 years old and then
Mary Baptised on the 28 June 1837 and she would have been around 14 years old. So in total Thomas and Alice had 6 children.
Thomas 21, Alice 19, Sarah Ann 17, Mary 14, William 9 and Hannah 6 years old at the time of the Census.
Alice 1801 to ?
Thomas was the eldest son of Thomas and Alice Smith. And his siblings were Alice, Sarah Ann, Mary,William, and Hannah.
Thomas was born in Lambton. He was a Carpenter as was his father. He married Sarah Selina Gorden nee Paddon. Sarah was born in Surrey, Clapham.
She was Baptised on the 25 May 1834 at Holy Trinity, Clapham. She married her first husband John Gordon at Kennington, Surrey,
of there partners must have died, as they where recorded as been, "Widower and Widow". Sarah had a son from her previous marriage John David Gorden.
According to the 1861 Census they where staying at 2 Clandon Street, Lambeth. and were living together as Husband and Wife. They only got Married in 1866.
We find Thomas aged 31 a Carpenter, Sarah Selina 27, and her son John David Gorden aged 4, Which means John's father, John Gordon died before his son was born !!
Sarah Selina Gorden nee Paddon 1834 to ?
If we look at the 1841 Cersus we find Sarah's parent's living at Union Street, Clapham. Sarah's father Joseph Paddon
an Artist Painter, According to Thomas and Sarah Selina's Marriage certificate.
Joseph was born in Truro, Cornwall, on the 8th September 1792 to 1865, is 45 years old and is then a House Painter. Joseph was the son of William and Susannah Paddon.
His wife Amelia is 35 born 1806 to 1847 and there children Amilia 12, Hannah 9, Sarah Selina 7, John 5, Joseph 2 and Mary 6 months old.
In the 1851 Census they are living at 4 Carter cottages, Larkhall Lane, Clapham. We find Joseph 58 and now a widower, Amelia had died at the age of only 4.
Joseph 12, Mary Ann 10 and living with them is Benjamin 60, Joseph's brother a Hatter Journeyman, Born in Devon, Plymouth.
No mention of John who would have been around 15 years old, Sarah Selina 17, Hannah 19 and Amilia around 22 year's old.
Then in the 1861 Census, We find Joseph now 68 a Gardener or Greener ? Living alone at 7 Pentecost Cottages, Battersea.
John David Gorden 13 a Scholar, Thomas 8, Alice Sarah 4 and Hannah 2.
William, Albert, Alice Sarah and Hannah were all Baptised on the 7th January 1874.
You will notice that Alice who would have been around 14 is not there (She may have been staying elsewhere or perhaps died.) ??
a Shop Boy and Ada 13. No mention of Thomas who by now would have been around 27, Hannah 22 and William John now around 19, Who had by now, Probably
left for South Africa. There is also no mention of Joseph Herbert who was Baptised on the 30 Dec 1884. He would have been around 7 year's old !!!
Bethnal Green around this time was one of the poorest slums in london and on the western end of Bethnal Green from 1888 to 1891
who was stabbed in Osborn Street, Whitechapel, Could she have been a relative ?
William John son of Thomas and Sarah Selina Smith was Baptised on the 7th January 1874. He had a step brother John David Gorden, And Siblings Thomas, Alice Sarah, Hannah,
at the age of about 19 and stayed. Was a Cabby in London. Was a propman on the stage in S.A. Where he met Margaret, Who was an Opera Singer and Actress.
William also played some small parts on the stage and had his thumb cut off in a Fencing Scene with a person who fancied Margaret as well. It was sown back on but it did not
work to well after that "He could not give the thumbs up sign ". They sung "The Pearly" a collection of old English songs like, Maybe it's because i'm a Londoner,
The Lambeth walk, My old man's a dustman, Knees up mother brown and If you knew Susie, to name a few. He also is said to have fought in the Jameson Raid in 1896.
He was a small man in stature and a heavy drinker. Had a bad temper and was always ready for a fight. He had big sons who jumped when he spoke. They had 12 children in all.
Margaret (Maggie) on the other hand was softly spoken very kind hearted and use to always give money and food to Hobo's. William John Smith's Death Notice.
Margaret Stewart 15-July-1872 to 11-Apr-1934.
William (Bill), the first born child of William and Margaret Smith.
Ruby Blackney 03-June-1892 to 26-Nov-1969.
George, the second born child of William and Margaret Smith.
George nick named "Toby" was christened with Herbert and the names where mixed up, George should have been Herbert and vice-versa.
Gladys Elizabeth Hoffmann 24-June-1898 to 10-May-1980.
Maggie, the third born child of William and Margaret Smith.
Herbert, the forth born child of William and Margaret Smith.
Herbert and George where christened together and the names where mixed up, So George should have been Herbert and vice-versa.
My Grandfather lived in a house in Henly-on-Klip, Which was built over many a weekend with the help of his sons. He was a keen gardener and had beautiful gardens.
Violet Rowe 12-Aug-1894 to 18-Jan-1925.
Herbert Married Elizabeth and have a Child Valerie.
Elizabeth Pringle 02-Feb-1929 to ??-??-19??.
Dorethy, the fifth born child of William and Margaret Smith.
Thomas (Tommy), the sixth born child of William and Margaret Smith.
Petronella Johanna Rowles 10-Oct-1903 to 21-July-1969.
Harry, the seventh born child of William and Margaret Smith.
Eileen Rowe 04-July-1910 to 09-Apr-1997.
Selina, the eighth born child of William and Margaret Smith.
Jack Gatley ??-??-19?? to 08-June-1935.
Norman, the ninth born child of William and Margaret Smith.
Norman Married Doris on the 03-Mar-1943 and had no Children.
Doris Griffiths 14-Mar-1907 to 31-July-1968.
Edward, the tenth born child of William and Margaret Smith.
Irene Neser 16-Jan-1914 to ?.
Olive, the eleventh born child of William and Margaret Smith.
Olive Married Percy on the 19-Dec-1942 and have a Child Gwen
Percy John Mills Dunstan 25-July-1908 to ?.
Charles, the twelfth born child of William and Margaret Smith.
Charles Married Enid on the 10-Feb-1945 and a Child Wendy.
Enid Maud Holloway 14-Feb-1915 to ?.
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